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Gene-Eden-vir

Discussion in 'Herpes Cure Research' started by Kqk, Aug 9, 2013.

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    I recently found this too, but I'm Leary. Has anyone tried it?
     
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    I haven't tried it, but was curious why www.drugs.com would have this on their site.
     
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    Thanks for the link mp. It does show that page was last updated 05-03-2011 though. But sincere thanks for looking into that other link for us. Hugs Ace
     
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    I can categorically state that it is not fraudulent , if you read my old posts you will see how I have suffered. This stuff REALLY REALLY WORKS. Try it, it's herbal no side effects and not too expensive . The biggest problem I have now is remembering to take it as I feel normal every day and forget that I ever had an issue. That sounds ridiculous but it is honestly true.
     
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    I just think if it was really that effective and life changing, there would be tons of people talking about it, and certainly more than just one. I'm still skeptical. What are the ingredients? What mechanism does it use to stop the infection?
     
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    You know what, just throw cold water on it! I really don't care what you think, it has worked for Me, I have shared as I wanted to help others. I have nothing to gain from posting my experience and indeed I have gone from living for this site to not needing it ( I am still so grateful for its existence ) .
    I I rarely come on here anymore and that is a positive believe me. For those who are interested its a great product and it has stopped my symptoms that can only be good.
     
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    And I'm just stating my opinion, which last I checked was not only acceptable, but also encouraged on this site. If this treatment is legit, why not post the answers to my questions: what's in it and how does that work against herpes?
     
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    Just a small update (wow, the last one was back in 2013!)

    I did a Google search and discovered that Gene-Eden-VIR had a published paper in the (peer reviewed) journal Pharmacology & Pharmacy back in September 2013. It's entitled "Gene-Eden-VIR Is Antiviral: Results of a Post Marketing Clinical Study"

    The link is here:

    http://www.scirp.org/journal/PaperInformation.aspx?PaperID=36101#.VUsTFdKeDGc
     
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    Has anyone actually tried it?
     
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    Note that this is essentially just a supplement of natural ingredients that have no evidence of treating viruses. Any studies are usually undertaken by a mysteriously and deceptively named CBCD.

    The FDA has sent these guys a warning regarding their claims and unsubstantiated studies.
     
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    That's not true.

    I checked, and the FDA warning letter was sent to polyDNA, the company that made Gene-Eden-VIR back in 2011. The warning letter noted that the company was making claims on its website that placed Gene-Eden-VIR in the category of a drug.

    Specifically, the warning letter said: "it is unlawful under the FTC Act, 15 U.S.C. § 41 et seq., to advertise that a product can prevent, treat, or cure human disease unless you possess competent and reliable scientific evidence, including, when appropriate, well-controlled human clinical studies, substantiating that the claims are true at the time they are made." (1)

    In 2013, a well-controlled human clinical study actually WAS conducted, the results were published in a peer reviewed medical journal (this means the study WAS substantiated), and the offending language was removed from the company website.

    The study showed that out of those who used Gene-Eden-VIR, "Seventy three percent (30/41) of the
    individuals treated with Gene-Eden-VIR reported a decrease in their symptoms. Specifically, they reported a
    decrease in the severity of their symptoms (p = 0.006, n =45), a decrease in the duration of their symptoms (p =0.009, n = 34), and a decrease in the frequency of their symptoms (p < 0.001, n = 31)." (2)

    People can see both the FDA warning letter and the published study on Gene-Eden-VIR at the following links:

    1. http://www.fda.gov/ICECI/EnforcementActions/WarningLetters/2011/ucm253333.htm

    2. http://www.scirp.org/journal/PaperInformation.aspx?PaperID=36101#.VVRatY6qqko
     
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    The study has little credibility. People 'reported' a decrease in symptoms. No clinical observations no knowledge of what other measures were taken. You can get the same results by getting fit, eating better, drinking lots of water and managing stress better.
     
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    Once again, I'm not sure you are correct, regarding this study on Gene-Eden-VIR's formula.

    The study seemed pretty up-front. It said: "This study relies on patient reported outcomes (PROs).
    Past studies showed that PROs had a significant role in the development and evaluation of new medicines [27]. According to the FDA, PROs are a valid and valuable source for measuring the efficacy of new drugs. They are reliable enough to warrant an approval of a label claim for a new drug. From the years 1997 to 2002, the FDA approved 23 new drugs based on PRO endpoints only. They include six anti-migraine products (Amerge®, Axert®), several anti-epileptics (Gabitril®, Keppra®), and a variety of other therapy classes (Tamiflu®, Relenza®)." [27]

    How can you say that a study that relies on patient reported outcomes has little credibility if the FDA approved over 23 drugs based on people "reporting" symptom decreases?

    Basically, the whole FDA is disagreeing with you here.

    Here's the reference from the study:

    [27] R. J. Willke, L. B. Burke and P. Erickson, “Measuring
    Treatment Impact: A Review of Patient-Reported Out-
    comes and Other Efficacy Endpoints in Approved Prod-
    uct Labels,” Controlled Clinical Trials, Vol. 25, No. 6,
    2004, pp. 535-552
     
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